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Separating Index from Data

Patti Johnson

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August 4, 2010 at 6:00 am

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I need to separate the indexes from the data in the database MDF file. Has anyone done this before? I know I need to create an NDF file but what I don't know is what is the best process to extract the indexes from the data and put in the NDF.

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August 4, 2010 at 6:06 am

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You may want to check this out:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms175905.aspx

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004494 More actions · Answer 2

Patricia Johnson (8/4/2010)

I need to separate the indexes from the data in the database MDF file.

Why?

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Patti Johnson SSCertifiable Points: 7054 More actions · Answer 3

For performance reasons. I have a know it all application owner "wanna be DBA" telling me that the users are complaining about slow performance. He sees high utilization on the drives where 6/7 databases are located. The mdf's, ldf's and tempdb are located on separate drives already. Backup are on another drive. Now he wants me to separate out the indexes and put them on another drive.

Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004494 More actions · Answer 4

Have you checked and confirmed that the slow performance is due to an IO bottleneck? If not, splitting the indexes out may do nothing for performance.

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August 4, 2010 at 6:33 am

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I have attached a document with metrics. The H: drive is where all the MDF files are located. The I: drive is where all the LDF files are located and the T: drive is where the transaction log backups are written to every 15mins.

Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004494 More actions · Answer 6

Mind zipping that? It's a little large.

i wasn't asking if you were seeing high disk usage. You said that you were. I asked if it has been checked and confirmed that the SQL performance problems are caused by the disks, as opposed to inadequate indexing, blocking, etc.

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Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 397721 More actions · Answer 7

Complete agreement with Gail. Rather than knock yourself about moving the index locations (you just have to recreate the indexes and reference the new file or filegroups using the ON clause, BTW), you would be much better off determining the precise pain points within the system.

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Patti Johnson SSCertifiable Points: 7054 More actions · Answer 8

I am resending the attachment zipped. No it hasn't been confirmed that the SQL performance problems are caused by the disks. I am not sure how to tell. There are separate people that manage disks in this company. What would be the best approach to determining if the indexes and/or blocking is inadequate. We run weekly optimization jobs on the databases. Specifically reorganizing index pages and perform database integrity checks but they exclude indexes. This is sql 2000 (sorry). I am stuck with this release until they are ready to move to 2005 or 2008.

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August 4, 2010 at 7:01 am

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Thanks Grant. I with you guys on this. Now I just need to figure out how to do that. I in know way consider myself an expert and really appreciate everyones help.

Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 397721 More actions · Answer 10

Because you're working with 2000, this will be harder, but what you need to do is analyze the wait states and queues to figure out what you're slowing down on. For 2005 and up you can refer to this white paper from Microsoft as a starting point. But for 2000... It's just harder. You can look at this sys.processes view to see what things are waiting on. Microsoft is hiding a lot of the 2000 documentation. Here's the 2008 version and more.

Additionally, I'd suggest setting up a server side trace and capture your TSQL performance metrics directly. Frequently just identifying and fixing the longest running or most frequently called queries is all that's needed.

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