Why can I not use a len() in a substring? When I run this, it always returns the column length of 255

  • use master;

    declare @x int

    select @x=len(physical_name) from sys.database_files

    select 'move' ,'"'+substring(rtrim(physical_name),1,@x)+'"','k:\db-store' from sys.database_files

    thanks again

  • Returns character data if expression is one of the supported character data types. Returns binary data if expression is one of the supported binary data types.

    The above is from Books Online - which tells us that the return value for your expression is going to be the same as the physical_name column from sys.database_files. That should be nvarchar(260) - which has an actual length of 520.

    Add the quotes - and you get a final length of 524, which is nvarchar(262).

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  • And, reviewing your code - I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish. There doesn't seem to be any reason to use rtrim, nor any reason to use substring - since spaces will be truncated automatically unless you have set ansi padding on.

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  • use master;

    declare @x int

    select @x=len(physical_name) from sys.database_files

    /****

    The above select statement returns (in my case) 90. But when we

    put @x in the substring function, it returns the full size of the column?

    If I manually type 90 into the substring function it works like it should???

    Am I missing something here?

    ****/

  • Yes, you are correct the rtrim is not needed since I'm using substring function.

  • What's the problem? I tried running your query and got no errors.

  • I unchecked the ANSI PADDING in the tools menu but the query still returns the padded spaces unless I manually type in the length of the text in that field...

  • No errors, just trying to get rid of the trail of spaces... SUBSTRING should work with the LEN() function but it isn't???

  • I'm not sure what trailing spaces you're referring to. I don't get any.

    Though you should realise that you probably need to change the ANSI_PADDING setting in the *database*, not in your SSMS instance, for that setting to apply. I'm not going to change mine to test this, but you could try changing yours and seeing if it works.

  • I set ANSI PADDING to FALSE on the database. I also tried with it set to TRUE, same results... Why isn't SUBSTRING working???

    Here are the queries and the results.... The length in my case is 97+1. If I manually type 98 in the substring, it works as it should. If I use len() function or variable @X, it will not work?????????????????????? @x = 98 too????????

    use AdventureWorksLT;

    select len(physical_name)+1 from sys.database_files

    select 'move' ,'"'+substring(physical_name,1,len(physical_name)+1)+'"','k:\db-store' from sys.database_files

    select 'move' ,'"'+substring(physical_name,1,98)+'"','k:\db-store' from sys.database_files

    -----------

    98

    97

    ---- --------------------see 255 column length-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------

    move "M:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL10_50.MSSQLSERVER\MSSQL\DATA\AdventureWorksLT_Data.mdf" k:\db-store

    move "M:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL10_50.MSSQLSERVER\MSSQL\DATA\AdventureWorksLT_Log.ldf" k:\db-store

    ---- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------

    move "M:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL10_50.MSSQLSERVER\MSSQL\DATA\AdventureWorksLT_Data.mdf" k:\db-store

    move "M:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL10_50.MSSQLSERVER\MSSQL\DATA\AdventureWorksLT_Log.ldf" k:\db-store

  • funny, I guess your website took out all of the spaces or tabs from the results I just posted....

  • funny, the website took out all of the spaces or tabs from the results I just posted...

  • Well, sorry, can't really help you any more then. I tried reproducing the problem and couldn't get it to appear. I'm not seeing any trailing spaces in the result of my query :/ Good luck, hopefully someone else can help you out.

  • Thank for taking the time OLD HAND. I'm not sure why we are getting different results. I'm using SQL 2008R2 with no service pack applied. I guess it is either a bug or some configuration option somewhere... Maybe one may say you just have to use C# assembly for string manipulations because you just can not count on SQL...

    If len(colA) = 90 then

    substring(G,1,90) != substring(G,1,len(colA))

    Oh well...

  • what you are seeing is just a display issue. By default, output is truncated at 255 characters or the size of the column, whichever is smaller.

    The data type is nvarchar(260), so you get 255.

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