July 3, 2010 at 10:56 am
A full day pre-con is 6 hours. Not a huge stretch if you've done 4, could be hard if you've never done more than 2. However, if you want, I'd encourage you to build it in slices, deliver 1-2 hour segments at UGs or somewhere else, get a feel for timing, then submit for a precon.
Some SQL Saturdays will do pre-cons as well, so if you want to try something out and take a risk, offer it to one close to you.
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July 3, 2010 at 10:58 am
BTW, any of you regulars need an MSDN 2010 subscription? Got a few in the mail. 12 month for dev/test, includes Office 2010.
PM me if you're interested.
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July 3, 2010 at 11:06 am
Jack Corbett (7/3/2010)
Cool! They must be in the developer track because I didn't see them in the DBA track. I'm sure one of them will be selected. Looking forward to meeting you in person finally.
Yep... Developer Track. Looking forward to meeting you and many other folks that I've known on this site for many years but have never met.
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July 3, 2010 at 11:17 am
Steve Jones - Editor (7/3/2010)
A full day pre-con is 6 hours. Not a huge stretch if you've done 4, could be hard if you've never done more than 2. However, if you want, I'd encourage you to build it in slices, deliver 1-2 hour segments at UGs or somewhere else, get a feel for timing, then submit for a precon.
Might give it a go next year. I know my usergroup would be very happy if I presented at 6 meetings in a row
Some SQL Saturdays will do pre-cons as well, so if you want to try something out and take a risk, offer it to one close to you.
Only way I'm gonna get a SQLSat close is if I organise it completely. Lot of work, don't know if there'd be much interest.
Gail Shaw
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July 3, 2010 at 11:26 am
You might be surprised. No one in the US thought they would work, but even small cities have gotten 60-80 people to come out for a Sat. Often we use community college rooms and it works out well.
However it is some work, and it helps if you find 3-4 people to each do a part. There was one in NZ, and a few people have partnered with Code Camps or .NET groups to do a joint event, separate marketing.
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July 3, 2010 at 11:38 am
Steve Jones - Editor (7/3/2010)
However it is some work, and it helps if you find 3-4 people to each do a part.
Considering the success (not) I've been having in getting people to volunteer (or volunteer and keep to their commitments) with the usergroup, that's gonna be hard.
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July 3, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Jeff Moden (7/3/2010)
Jack Corbett (7/3/2010)
Cool! They must be in the developer track because I didn't see them in the DBA track. I'm sure one of them will be selected. Looking forward to meeting you in person finally.Yep... Developer Track. Looking forward to meeting you and many other folks that I've known on this site for many years but have never met.
I wish we could afford for me to attend the PASS conference, unfortunately neither me or my employer can afford it.
I'd love to meet many of you that I have gotten to know here on SSC.
July 5, 2010 at 8:21 am
Since there's a bit of talk going on about topics to present and such, I'd like to get some input from some of the Threadizens...
I've been contemplating making a presentation to the UG based on the Comparing Table Variables with Temporary Tables article[/url] that I wrote last year - do you'll think that this would make a good presentation?
Wayne
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July 5, 2010 at 10:01 am
WayneS (7/5/2010)
Since there's a bit of talk going on about topics to present and such, I'd like to get some input from some of the Threadizens...I've been contemplating making a presentation to the UG based on the Comparing Table Variables with Temporary Tables article[/url] that I wrote last year - do you'll think that this would make a good presentation?
Seems like a good idea to me, as it was a good article. Might help dispel some of the myths (both the ones you mention explicitly as myths and the ones that you debunk in passing) about the differences between the the two and their respective advantages/disadvantages.
Tom
July 5, 2010 at 10:06 am
Be still, my heart!
Jeff's now teaching how to write a c.u.r.s.o.r.
:w00t:
(Who would have thought he would be able to even write one??? ;-):-P )
Wayne
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July 5, 2010 at 5:44 pm
WayneS
I've been contemplating making a presentation to the UG based on the Comparing Table Variables with Temporary Tables article that I wrote last year - do you'll think that this would make a good presentation?
Definitely YES
July 6, 2010 at 1:53 am
WayneS (7/5/2010)
Be still, my heart!Jeff's now teaching how to write a c.u.r.s.o.r.
:w00t:
(Who would have thought he would be able to even write one??? ;-):-P )
I hope he was appropriately chastised and sent to the naughty corner 😛
Far away is close at hand in the images of elsewhere.
Anon.
July 6, 2010 at 5:51 am
WayneS (7/5/2010)
Since there's a bit of talk going on about topics to present and such, I'd like to get some input from some of the Threadizens...I've been contemplating making a presentation to the UG based on the Comparing Table Variables with Temporary Tables article[/url] that I wrote last year - do you'll think that this would make a good presentation?
Yeah, looks like a great presentation topic. It's information that just doesn't seem to get communicated, no matter how often or at level of detail it's put out there. So reinforcing it in your area with a presentation is an excellent idea.
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July 6, 2010 at 5:59 am
WayneS (7/5/2010)
Be still, my heart!Jeff's now teaching how to write a c.u.r.s.o.r.
:w00t:
(Who would have thought he would be able to even write one??? ;-):-P )
BWAA-HAAA!!! The only reason why I know how to write one (or at least I think I know how to write one :hehe:) is to demonstrate how slow they are. 😀 If you take a look at the rest of that post, it's saying "Don't use cursors" 72 different ways.
--Jeff Moden
July 6, 2010 at 6:03 am
Jeff Moden (7/6/2010)
If you take a look at the rest of that post, it's saying "Don't use cursors" 72 different ways.
Making excuses after the fact does not excuse you :Whistling:
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Anon.
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