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  • Steve Jones - Editor (7/8/2010)


    I hadn't heard of load balancing in SQL 11. The PDW edition is locked down well, and I wonder if they would be able to mature/test it by SQL 11, which I'd expect in 2011. We'll see what happens there.

    Well to be perfectly clear, what I'd heard was possibly SQL 11, but definitely coming. He hedged on whether it'd be 11 or 12.

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  • I'd agree it's coming. Not sure that it is ready for SQL 11. The deep dives I saw on PDW recently were impressive, but with lots, and lots of caveats and restrictions.

    We definitely need it. A good start would be an easier way to move read-only queries to other servers automatically.

  • Edit: nevermind...

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  • Hi folks, I posted a question regarding SQL 2008 Auditing and cycling through the audit logs. What I'd like to know, is there a good intro to Auditing in SQL 2008 available? I found this excellent article and this equally excellent pos[/url]t, but was wondering if there were any books or other online resources available?

    My kluge right now is to write jobs to create audits on the fly, based on date, and cycle all those older than X days, which seems okay enough, provided I can do an average sizing of the audit files.

    Thanks.

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  • GabyYYZ (7/8/2010)


    Hi folks, I posted a question regarding SQL 2008 Auditing and cycling through the audit logs. What I'd like to know, is there a good intro to Auditing in SQL 2008 available? I found this excellent article and this equally excellent pos[/url]t, but was wondering if there were any books or other online resources available?

    My kluge right now is to write jobs to create audits on the fly, based on date, and cycle all those older than X days, which seems okay enough, provided I can do an average sizing of the audit files.

    Thanks.

    Hi Gaby, G Squared wrote a few articles on audits. They are here Audit Trails and Logging Part I[/url] and here Audit Trails and Logging Part II[/url]. Might help you out.

    -- Kit

  • Kit G (7/9/2010)


    GabyYYZ (7/8/2010)


    Hi folks, I posted a question regarding SQL 2008 Auditing and cycling through the audit logs. What I'd like to know, is there a good intro to Auditing in SQL 2008 available? I found this excellent article and this equally excellent pos[/url]t, but was wondering if there were any books or other online resources available?

    My kluge right now is to write jobs to create audits on the fly, based on date, and cycle all those older than X days, which seems okay enough, provided I can do an average sizing of the audit files.

    Thanks.

    Hi Gaby, G Squared wrote a few articles on audits. They are here Audit Trails and Logging Part I[/url] and here Audit Trails and Logging Part II[/url]. Might help you out.

    Thanks Kit. If all I'm doing is capturing INSERTS/UPDATES/DELETES, this is definitely an alternative, and have the trigger write to an audit database restricted to admins. It's something to add to my toolbelt definitely, but was curious as to leveraging SQL 2008's auditing capabilities. But I now have a plan. πŸ™‚

    Gaby

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  • But now I have a plan.

    Cool. Should there be an evil laugh after "But now I have a plan"? :w00t: This is after all, The Thread. πŸ˜€

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  • Kit G (7/9/2010)


    But now I have a plan.

    Cool. Should there be an evil laugh after "But now I have a plan"? :w00t: This is after all, The Thread. πŸ˜€

    Plus, shouldn't it always read, "I have a cunning plan."

    Or am I the only one who watches too much Black Adder?

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  • Have you ever twittered with "Cunning plan" ?

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  • Can't help but giggle reading that πŸ™‚

    Now, how often have you had to tell folks that there's no guaranteed order of results from a query unless there's an order by - even when there's a clustered index - but have had trouble proving it?

    Working on a person dedupe, I've created a unique clustered index on a column of a local temp table of 55,268 rows. The sequence starts at 1 and ends with 56,919 i.e. there are some small gaps. The gaps in the sequence were created before the clustered index, in fact the data hasn't been changed at all since creating the clustered index. The table was created by a SELECT...INTO... with an ORDER BY on the same column.

    But...the result set from SELECT without ORDER BY starts at 14,555 and ends at 42,927. There are runs of contiguous values of the indexed column of about 256 rows. If I get time, I'll configure this as a nice little test with a data generator as an off-the-shelf proof.

    BTW it's [Microsoft SQL Server 2008 (SP1) - 10.0.2734.0 (X64) Sep 11 2009 14:30:58 Copyright (c) 1988-2008 Microsoft Corporation Enterprise Edition (64-bit) on Windows NT 6.0 <X64> (Build 6002: Service Pack 2)]

    Cheers

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  • Chris Morris-439714 (7/9/2010)


    Can't help but giggle reading that πŸ™‚

    Now, how often have you had to tell folks that there's no guaranteed order of results from a query unless there's an order by - even when there's a clustered index - but have had trouble proving it?

    snip...

    Got a blog for that....

    http://sqlblogcasts.com/blogs/sqlandthelike/archive/2010/06/27/sql-101-without-order-by-order-is-not-guaranteed.aspx



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  • Dave Ballantyne (7/9/2010)


    Chris Morris-439714 (7/9/2010)


    Can't help but giggle reading that πŸ™‚

    Now, how often have you had to tell folks that there's no guaranteed order of results from a query unless there's an order by - even when there's a clustered index - but have had trouble proving it?

    snip...

    Got a blog for that....

    http://sqlblogcasts.com/blogs/sqlandthelike/archive/2010/06/27/sql-101-without-order-by-order-is-not-guaranteed.aspx

    Heh saved me the trouble, cheers Dave πŸ™‚

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  • Dave Ballantyne (7/9/2010)


    Chris Morris-439714 (7/9/2010)


    Can't help but giggle reading that πŸ™‚

    Now, how often have you had to tell folks that there's no guaranteed order of results from a query unless there's an order by - even when there's a clustered index - but have had trouble proving it?

    snip...

    Got a blog for that....

    http://sqlblogcasts.com/blogs/sqlandthelike/archive/2010/06/27/sql-101-without-order-by-order-is-not-guaranteed.aspx

    Also

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  • Does the plan involve a fiber-optic laser assembler?

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  • The Dixie Flatline (7/9/2010)


    Does the plan involve a fiber-optic laser assembler?

    And a flux capacitor?



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