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GSquared (6/21/2011)
SSIS job and they don't know about derived columns????Is that the part where I make something up and hope it fits with the rest of the data?
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How can you avoid that one?
If you've never had to deal with connectors, sources, and destinations other that OLE DB, you may never actually use that task, actually. But I don't know many places that uses SSIS without needing to use flat files, excel sheets, etc.
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Brandie Tarvin (6/21/2011)
If you've never had to deal with connectors, sources, and destinations other that OLE DB, you may never actually use that task, actually. But I don't know many places that uses SSIS without needing to use flat files, excel sheets, etc.
A lot of folks haven't, Brandie, and if it was advertised as an ETL or warehouse position I'd expect more of those types of folks, get the data moved, THEN I'll manipulate it. We are purposely trying to leverage both sides of the optimization possible, SSIS and T-SQL staging tables, and it's advertised in particular for SSIS.
I don't know of anyone who hasn't gotten their start in SSIS doing the simple tasks like you describe. At some point though you usually at least accidentally drag one of the other controls on screen... 😀
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Brandie Tarvin (6/21/2011)
GSquared (6/21/2011)
SSIS job and they don't know about derived columns????Is that the part where I make something up and hope it fits with the rest of the data?
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How can you avoid that one?
If you've never had to deal with connectors, sources, and destinations other that OLE DB, you may never actually use that task, actually. But I don't know many places that uses SSIS without needing to use flat files, excel sheets, etc.
If you're just doing a database port from one schema to another, you don't need to use flatfiles or any source other than OLEDB.
Then again, you'll probably still want derived columns to help you fit the new columns and columns sizes.
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Lynn Pettis (6/21/2011)
Trying to get things done before going to Seattle for an interview with MS on Friday.
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GabyYYZ (6/20/2011)
Well, MVP is the highest official accolade from MSNot sure that's true, MCM would rank higher than MVP, I would think. Depends what you're measuring, I suppose.
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GabyYYZ (6/20/2011)
Well, MVP is the highest official accolade from MSNot sure that's true, MCM would rank higher than MVP, I would think. Depends what you're measuring, I suppose.
Steak and watermelon.
Totally different things, awarded differently, for different purposes, based on different things.
MCM = technical exams.
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Jeff Moden (6/19/2011)
Major vent... suppressed. 😀 ...Ahh, how you've grown, my son. 😀
yeah, except he still can't spell "repressed"
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GabyYYZ (6/20/2011)
Well, MVP is the highest official accolade from MSNot sure that's true, MCM would rank higher than MVP, I would think. Depends what you're measuring, I suppose.
Steak and watermelon.
Totally different things, awarded differently, for different purposes, based on different things.
MCM = technical exams.
MVP = community contributions.
hm, sounds like a good meal 😉
that was my point, actually, being an MVP doesn't necessarily mean you're the best at what you do, but that you're excellent at helping others. Being the best at what you do doesn't mean that you're any good *at all* at helping others.
It's great when the skills overlap, like most of you guys, but "steak" doesn't guarantee "watermelon"
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jcrawf02 (6/21/2011)
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jcrawf02 (6/21/2011)
GabyYYZ (6/20/2011)
Well, MVP is the highest official accolade from MSNot sure that's true, MCM would rank higher than MVP, I would think. Depends what you're measuring, I suppose.
Steak and watermelon.
Totally different things, awarded differently, for different purposes, based on different things.
MCM = technical exams.
MVP = community contributions.
hm, sounds like a good meal 😉
that was my point, actually, being an MVP doesn't necessarily mean you're the best at what you do, but that you're excellent at helping others. Being the best at what you do doesn't mean that you're any good *at all* at helping others.
It's great when the skills overlap, like most of you guys, but "steak" doesn't guarantee "watermelon"
...and, now I'm hungry...
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GSquared (6/21/2011)
SSIS job and they don't know about derived columns????Is that the part where I make something up and hope it fits with the rest of the data?
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How can you avoid that one?
If you've never had to deal with connectors, sources, and destinations other that OLE DB, you may never actually use that task, actually. But I don't know many places that uses SSIS without needing to use flat files, excel sheets, etc.
And if you're dealing purely within the world of OLE DB and nothing even as basic as derived columns, I'd expect that SSIS is kind of overkill for that, and a linked server is probably all you really need.
Regardless, I was joking anyway.
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SQLRNNR (6/21/2011)
Maybe Paul? I need to delve into CLR for reasons other than this - but it would be nice.Phrase #5, I think...
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Stefan Krzywicki (6/21/2011)
I spent the weekend visiting friends in Richmond. House prices down there are really low, but I don't know that there's enough of a market down there and I don't like the area very much. Phoenix strikes me similarly and doesn't have the draw of old friends.Richmond, VA? That's the general area where I'm at.
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Stefan Krzywicki (6/21/2011)
I spent the weekend visiting friends in Richmond. House prices down there are really low, but I don't know that there's enough of a market down there and I don't like the area very much. Phoenix strikes me similarly and doesn't have the draw of old friends.Richmond, VA? That's the general area where I'm at.
Now that is a coincidence, close to where Steve Jones once lived, and close to where I did the same. Welcome to the south, hope you have time to take in the historic sites, civil war battle fields and such.
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jcrawf02 (6/21/2011)
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Jeff Moden (6/19/2011)
Major vent... suppressed. 😀 ...Ahh, how you've grown, my son. 😀
yeah, except he still can't spell "repressed"
Hmmm, "suppressed" or "repressed", which word should be used?
Suppressed - to hold down
Repressed - to force down
Well, I'd guess either could be used depending on the intensity of the vent. But...it is a "major" vent after all.
Ya know, this seems like a good SSIS question. Who cares that they don't know what a Data Flow Task does. 😛
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