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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004494 More actions · Answer 1

Ed Wagner (11/10/2016)

Eirikur Eiriksson (11/10/2016)

GilaMonster (11/10/2016)

sql 2005 to oracle11g database upgrade please send the step by step process

Um, ok...

Wooosh and no clue

~~~~\o/~~~/\~~~~

😎

Heh - Did you direct them to the installation documentation for Oracle?

No. To SAP customer support.

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Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287015 More actions · Answer 2

GilaMonster (11/10/2016)

Ed Wagner (11/10/2016)

Eirikur Eiriksson (11/10/2016)

GilaMonster (11/10/2016)

sql 2005 to oracle11g database upgrade please send the step by step process

Um, ok...

Wooosh and no clue

~~~~\o/~~~/\~~~~

😎

Heh - Did you direct them to the installation documentation for Oracle?

No. To SAP customer support.

Whoa - My guess is that they have quite a long road ahead of them.

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jasona.work SSC Guru Points: 50021 More actions · Answer 3

GilaMonster (11/10/2016)

sql 2005 to oracle11g database upgrade please send the step by step process

Um, ok...

Come now, the steps to do this are quite simple, really, anybody could do it.

0. Update your resume

1. Put want ad out looking for a highly experienced Oracle DBA / Developer with some MS SQL experience for a consultant position

2. Hire said Oracle DBA at an hourly rate of ~$100/hr

3. Set contract length @ 6 months

4. ???

5. PROFIT!

😀

To be honest, I think I might be low on the hourly rate, I was estimating based on what the Oracle DBA I work with roughly brings in per year.

Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287015 More actions · Answer 4

jasona.work (11/10/2016)

GilaMonster (11/10/2016)

sql 2005 to oracle11g database upgrade please send the step by step process

Um, ok...

Come now, the steps to do this are quite simple, really, anybody could do it.

0. Update your resume

1. Put want ad out looking for a highly experienced Oracle DBA / Developer with some MS SQL experience for a consultant position

2. Hire said Oracle DBA at an hourly rate of ~$100/hr

3. Set contract length @ 6 months

4. ???

5. PROFIT!

😀

To be honest, I think I might be low on the hourly rate, I was estimating based on what the Oracle DBA I work with roughly brings in per year.

I get your reference in steps 4 and 5. 😛

The last time I worked with an Oracle installation was back in the 9i days. The documentation for the installation was several hundred pages long and did not include installation of Oracle Application Server, which was a separate machine. I'm glad I wasn't the DBA. 😀

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Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442447 More actions · Answer 5

Jeff Moden (11/9/2016)

Lynn Pettis (11/9/2016)

Jeff, I actually excepted you to have some interesting comments about the code I emailed you, or didn't you get it?

Ah. sorry. I did see it and did start to look through it and got side tracked. Who wrote it?

Not really sure, but apparently the person currently responsible has a canned response ready when I make suggestions for minor changes, "Someone else wrote this code before me." With absolutely no comments in the code, would know. I have slowly started adding comments to my code and hopefully it is starting to look more like the code you write.

I don't know why people think that the code is the documentation. COBOL came close to that, but even that needs more comments where complex logic is involved.

jasona.work SSC Guru Points: 50021 More actions · Answer 6

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November 10, 2016 at 11:21 am

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Capt'n!

The Bird o' Prey is gone!

They must've cloaked!

First thing I thought of when I saw this:

MSI (c) (28:2C) [14:35:09:178]: Cloaking enabled.

over here.

Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 172918 More actions · Answer 7

jasona.work (11/10/2016)

Capt'n!

The Bird o' Prey is gone!

They must've cloaked!

First thing I thought of when I saw this:

MSI (c) (28:2C) [14:35:09:178]: Cloaking enabled.

over here.

You are a bad, bad boy!

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Brandie Tarvin (11/10/2016)

jasona.work (11/10/2016)

Capt'n!

The Bird o' Prey is gone!

They must've cloaked!

First thing I thought of when I saw this:

MSI (c) (28:2C) [14:35:09:178]: Cloaking enabled.

over here.

You are a bad, bad boy!

Hey!

I'm not knocking the guys question, I'm making fun of the fact that some wag at MS put something like that in an installer log file!

Plus, I loved watching Star Trek (TOS a lot, TNG some, DS9 a little, Voyager some, Enterprise only 1 season);-)

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1000539 More actions · Answer 9

Lynn Pettis (11/10/2016)

Jeff Moden (11/9/2016)

Lynn Pettis (11/9/2016)

Jeff, I actually excepted you to have some interesting comments about the code I emailed you, or didn't you get it?

Ah. sorry. I did see it and did start to look through it and got side tracked. Who wrote it?

Not really sure, but apparently the person currently responsible has a canned response ready when I make suggestions for minor changes, "Someone else wrote this code before me." With absolutely no comments in the code, would know. I have slowly started adding comments to my code and hopefully it is starting to look more like the code you write.

I don't know why people think that the code is the documentation. COBOL came close to that, but even that needs more comments where complex logic is involved.

As you know, my general rule of thumb is that if you remove all of the code, the comments that remain should allow someone to create a functional flowchart. My original thought when I saw the code was "typical code by someone that doesn't know, doesn't care, or both".

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Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442447 More actions · Answer 10

Jeff Moden (11/10/2016)

Lynn Pettis (11/10/2016)

Jeff Moden (11/9/2016)

Lynn Pettis (11/9/2016)

Jeff, I actually excepted you to have some interesting comments about the code I emailed you, or didn't you get it?

Ah. sorry. I did see it and did start to look through it and got side tracked. Who wrote it?

Not really sure, but apparently the person currently responsible has a canned response ready when I make suggestions for minor changes, "Someone else wrote this code before me." With absolutely no comments in the code, would know. I have slowly started adding comments to my code and hopefully it is starting to look more like the code you write.

I don't know why people think that the code is the documentation. COBOL came close to that, but even that needs more comments where complex logic is involved.

As you know, my general rule of thumb is that if you remove all of the code, the comments that remain should allow someone to create a functional flowchart. My original thought when I saw the code was "typical code by someone that doesn't know, doesn't care, or both".

What bothered me was that I was expected to just quickly understand what the code was doing. I did provide a small change regarding capturing the values from the parameter table that is cleaner and easier to understand.

Ed Wagner SSC Guru Points: 287015 More actions · Answer 11

jasona.work (11/10/2016)

Brandie Tarvin (11/10/2016)

jasona.work (11/10/2016)

Capt'n!

The Bird o' Prey is gone!

They must've cloaked!

First thing I thought of when I saw this:

MSI (c) (28:2C) [14:35:09:178]: Cloaking enabled.

over here.

You are a bad, bad boy!

Hey!

I'm not knocking the guys question, I'm making fun of the fact that some wag at MS put something like that in an installer log file!

Plus, I loved watching Star Trek (TOS a lot, TNG some, DS9 a little, Voyager some, Enterprise only 1 season);-)

I'm with you. IMHO:

TOS = Very Good

TNG = Great

DS9 = No

Voyager = Only after 7 of 9 / the Borg came into the picture

Enterprise = No

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004494 More actions · Answer 12

Ed Wagner (11/10/2016)

TOS = Very Good

TNG = Great

DS9 = No

Voyager = Only after 7 of 9 / the Borg came into the picture

Enterprise = No

My only difference there would be

DS9 = From the Dominion war onward was good

Voyager = No (Can't stand Janeway)

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Sergiy SSC Guru Points: 110192 More actions · Answer 13

Sergiy

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November 10, 2016 at 2:36 pm

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ThomasRushton (11/10/2016)

ehh.... well, the CTPs for SQL2012 ("Denali") started in November 2010, and the RTM was Q1 2012, so it's possible to have over 4 years experience with SQL Server 2012...

How many did you count since Q1 2012?

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Hugo Kornelis SSC Guru Points: 64748 More actions · Answer 14

Sergiy (11/10/2016)

ThomasRushton (11/10/2016)

ehh.... well, the CTPs for SQL2012 ("Denali") started in November 2010, and the RTM was Q1 2012, so it's possible to have over 4 years experience with SQL Server 2012...

How many did you count since Q1 2012?

Four years and three quarters.

4 3/4 > 4

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Sergiy SSC Guru Points: 110192 More actions · Answer 15

Hugo Kornelis (11/10/2016)

Sergiy (11/10/2016)

ThomasRushton (11/10/2016)

ehh.... well, the CTPs for SQL2012 ("Denali") started in November 2010, and the RTM was Q1 2012, so it's possible to have over 4 years experience with SQL Server 2012...

How many did you count since Q1 2012?

Four years and three quarters.

4 3/4 > 4

How old are you?

I'm not asking about the number. It's about the way you answer such question.

"4 years and 9 month" is still 4 years.

"More than 4 years" means 5, 6, 7 years and more.

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