Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • Thom A - Friday, June 29, 2018 3:48 PM

    And yet, they followed suit πŸ™

    I know. I'm annoyed. I got one of the last Pixel XLs from Google this year. They're sold out now. I have no idea what to do next. Likely I'll go to a Galaxy, as they still have the jack

  • Well, today is the first of two days off before the weekend, then next week I'm in a training class all week (and out-state.)

    Checked my work phone, there's two issues that have popped up, one is very minor, the other is sort of a bigger issue.
    Now, ostensibly, one of the Devs is filling in for me, and I've got him called out in my out-of-office auto-reply.  So, I'm doing something I find very, very hard to do.  I'm NOT hitting reply to the e-mails and I'm NOT bringing out my work laptop...

    Does this make me a bad person, or just someone who's willing to take the bosses at their word that I shouldn't work on my days off?  If it were next week at the training, I'd be replying on one of the breaks or lunch if I felt I needed to jump in (or if the Dev calls for help.)

    In case you're curious about the issues?
    One is just renaming a couple linked servers to match the names at the remote end (not really a crisis, they want it to make some troubleshooting easier, and I'll have no problems doing it, nor will the dev responsible for the app that uses them have an issue with it.)
    The other slightly bigger issue is an app that appears to have somehow managed to insert some bad data (or that's what they think, *I* think it's a problem with the front end screwing up a couple dates in the where clause...) and they need someone to insert a value to replace a NULL (easy-peasy, the backup guy should be able to do this with his eyes closed.)

  • jasona.work - Thursday, July 5, 2018 1:32 PM

    Well, today is the first of two days off before the weekend, then next week I'm in a training class all week (and out-state.)

    Checked my work phone, there's two issues that have popped up, one is very minor, the other is sort of a bigger issue.
    Now, ostensibly, one of the Devs is filling in for me, and I've got him called out in my out-of-office auto-reply.  So, I'm doing something I find very, very hard to do.  I'm NOT hitting reply to the e-mails and I'm NOT bringing out my work laptop...

    Does this make me a bad person, or just someone who's willing to take the bosses at their word that I shouldn't work on my days off?  If it were next week at the training, I'd be replying on one of the breaks or lunch if I felt I needed to jump in (or if the Dev calls for help.)

    In case you're curious about the issues?
    One is just renaming a couple linked servers to match the names at the remote end (not really a crisis, they want it to make some troubleshooting easier, and I'll have no problems doing it, nor will the dev responsible for the app that uses them have an issue with it.)
    The other slightly bigger issue is an app that appears to have somehow managed to insert some bad data (or that's what they think, *I* think it's a problem with the front end screwing up a couple dates in the where clause...) and they need someone to insert a value to replace a NULL (easy-peasy, the backup guy should be able to do this with his eyes closed.)

    I don't think it makes you a bad person.  Let the substitute have his try at it first, or are you saying they already did try and now it's escalated to you on time off?  That's typically what happens to me on time off, even though I try to document what the practices are, sometimes the non DBA backups I have are afraid to do what I've documented and just want to "be sure".

  • Chris Harshman - Thursday, July 5, 2018 3:12 PM

    jasona.work - Thursday, July 5, 2018 1:32 PM

    Well, today is the first of two days off before the weekend, then next week I'm in a training class all week (and out-state.)

    Checked my work phone, there's two issues that have popped up, one is very minor, the other is sort of a bigger issue.
    Now, ostensibly, one of the Devs is filling in for me, and I've got him called out in my out-of-office auto-reply.  So, I'm doing something I find very, very hard to do.  I'm NOT hitting reply to the e-mails and I'm NOT bringing out my work laptop...

    Does this make me a bad person, or just someone who's willing to take the bosses at their word that I shouldn't work on my days off?  If it were next week at the training, I'd be replying on one of the breaks or lunch if I felt I needed to jump in (or if the Dev calls for help.)

    In case you're curious about the issues?
    One is just renaming a couple linked servers to match the names at the remote end (not really a crisis, they want it to make some troubleshooting easier, and I'll have no problems doing it, nor will the dev responsible for the app that uses them have an issue with it.)
    The other slightly bigger issue is an app that appears to have somehow managed to insert some bad data (or that's what they think, *I* think it's a problem with the front end screwing up a couple dates in the where clause...) and they need someone to insert a value to replace a NULL (easy-peasy, the backup guy should be able to do this with his eyes closed.)

    I don't think it makes you a bad person.  Let the substitute have his try at it first, or are you saying they already did try and now it's escalated to you on time off?  That's typically what happens to me on time off, even though I try to document what the practices are, sometimes the non DBA backups I have are afraid to do what I've documented and just want to "be sure".

    I'm with Chris on this one.  Unless it's on fire, and a fire that the backup cannot handle (whether that's based on them telling you they can't, or some other established escalation would need to be established), then don't jump in.  It does no one any favors if you're "the fixer", i.e. the only one who can do these things.  Everyone needs a backup, and having a backup includes giving them time to figure out some of these things on their own.

    Besides, you've actually *earned* the time off and coming back to work recharged would be beneficial to your org.

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  • jasona.work - Thursday, July 5, 2018 1:32 PM

    Well, today is the first of two days off before the weekend, then next week I'm in a training class all week (and out-state.)

    Checked my work phone, there's two issues that have popped up, one is very minor, the other is sort of a bigger issue.
    Now, ostensibly, one of the Devs is filling in for me, and I've got him called out in my out-of-office auto-reply.  So, I'm doing something I find very, very hard to do.  I'm NOT hitting reply to the e-mails and I'm NOT bringing out my work laptop...

    Does this make me a bad person, or just someone who's willing to take the bosses at their word that I shouldn't work on my days off?  If it were next week at the training, I'd be replying on one of the breaks or lunch if I felt I needed to jump in (or if the Dev calls for help.)

    In case you're curious about the issues?
    One is just renaming a couple linked servers to match the names at the remote end (not really a crisis, they want it to make some troubleshooting easier, and I'll have no problems doing it, nor will the dev responsible for the app that uses them have an issue with it.)
    The other slightly bigger issue is an app that appears to have somehow managed to insert some bad data (or that's what they think, *I* think it's a problem with the front end screwing up a couple dates in the where clause...) and they need someone to insert a value to replace a NULL (easy-peasy, the backup guy should be able to do this with his eyes closed.)

    Heh... two thoughts come to mind on this.

    1.  How can they miss you if you won't go away?
    2.  I tell people that I'm a Database Administrator.  They then ask what I do.  If it's a short elevator ride, my response is that they'll find out what I do when I stop doing it. πŸ˜‰

    I agree with the others... keep a watchful eye if you want (I usually do, just in case) but do not respond unless they call you on the phone with a "Really sorry to bother you but we're in deep Kimchi and need your help" kind of message.

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  • Yeah, so far there hasn't been a phone call, and nothing from the backup.  So I'm taking a "hands off until someone rings the fire alarm" attitude.

    When they really want the backup to be able to back me up (without a safety net of me having my work phone and laptop with me) is when I'm taking two weeks off in August / September.  In a way, one nice thing about working government is they tend to be very strict about taking your time off and not working during such time.  One of the other devs (who is a gov guy, most are contractors) had a work phone for a time and was instructed to NOT look at it / answer e-mails on it after hours / on his days off (apparently they caught him doing this.)

    Of course, an app that works except for one little thing isn't quite the same as "OH CRAP THE PRODUCTION DATABASE SERVER IS DOWN AND THE DBA IS ON HIS DAY OFF"  I think so far, because I've been so "light" as far as working on my off hours (through the phone,) it's not been an issue.

  • jasona.work - Thursday, July 5, 2018 9:43 PM

    Yeah, so far there hasn't been a phone call, and nothing from the backup.  So I'm taking a "hands off until someone rings the fire alarm" attitude.

    When they really want the backup to be able to back me up (without a safety net of me having my work phone and laptop with me) is when I'm taking two weeks off in August / September.  In a way, one nice thing about working government is they tend to be very strict about taking your time off and not working during such time.  One of the other devs (who is a gov guy, most are contractors) had a work phone for a time and was instructed to NOT look at it / answer e-mails on it after hours / on his days off (apparently they caught him doing this.)

    Of course, an app that works except for one little thing isn't quite the same as "OH CRAP THE PRODUCTION DATABASE SERVER IS DOWN AND THE DBA IS ON HIS DAY OFF"  I think so far, because I've been so "light" as far as working on my off hours (through the phone,) it's not been an issue.

    Jason, if you never give the backup DBA the opportunity to fail, you'll never know if they can succeed...and neither will they.  Yes, you should try to take the proverbial "wheels have come off the cart and we need help" phone call, but don't constantly check email and everything else.  Part of the job is knowing when to call in the Senior DBA for help.  Oh yeah, try to enjoy your time off.

  • I tried smoking beef short ribs for the first time on July 4th. I have braised them in the oven plenty of times in the past but they were out of this world on the smoker. Look how moist and tender those are. And the smoke ring is dynamite.

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  • Sean Lange - Friday, July 6, 2018 8:32 AM

    I tried smoking beef short ribs for the first time on July 4th. I have braised them in the oven plenty of times in the past but they were out of this world on the smoker. Look how moist and tender those are. And the smoke ring is dynamite.

    Perfection on a plate! This looks amazing Sean.

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  • ChrisM@Work - Friday, July 6, 2018 9:06 AM

    Sean Lange - Friday, July 6, 2018 8:32 AM

    I tried smoking beef short ribs for the first time on July 4th. I have braised them in the oven plenty of times in the past but they were out of this world on the smoker. Look how moist and tender those are. And the smoke ring is dynamite.

    Perfection on a plate! This looks amazing Sean.

    Thanks Chris. I was pretty pleased with the result on these.

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  • Sean Lange - Friday, July 6, 2018 9:21 AM

    ChrisM@Work - Friday, July 6, 2018 9:06 AM

    Sean Lange - Friday, July 6, 2018 8:32 AM

    I tried smoking beef short ribs for the first time on July 4th. I have braised them in the oven plenty of times in the past but they were out of this world on the smoker. Look how moist and tender those are. And the smoke ring is dynamite.

    Perfection on a plate! This looks amazing Sean.

    Thanks Chris. I was pretty pleased with the result on these.

    Very nice, sir.  How long did you smoke them?

  • Ed Wagner - Friday, July 6, 2018 9:28 AM

    Very nice, sir.  How long did you smoke them?

    I was doing pork belly burnt ends at the same time so it was a little hotter than I would probably run this. I kept the temp about 250F or so. I left these on the rack for about 4 hours. Then made a braising liquid with chianti, beef stock and butter. Set them in the liquid and spooned the liquid over at the beginning. Wrapped and back on for another couple hours. The rub on this came out way better than I expected. It is a super secret recipe of both kosher salt and pepper (absolutely nothing else). πŸ˜‰

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  • jasona.work - Thursday, July 5, 2018 9:43 PM

    Yeah, so far there hasn't been a phone call, and nothing from the backup.  So I'm taking a "hands off until someone rings the fire alarm" attitude.

    When they really want the backup to be able to back me up (without a safety net of me having my work phone and laptop with me) is when I'm taking two weeks off in August / September.  In a way, one nice thing about working government is they tend to be very strict about taking your time off and not working during such time.  One of the other devs (who is a gov guy, most are contractors) had a work phone for a time and was instructed to NOT look at it / answer e-mails on it after hours / on his days off (apparently they caught him doing this.)

    Of course, an app that works except for one little thing isn't quite the same as "OH CRAP THE PRODUCTION DATABASE SERVER IS DOWN AND THE DBA IS ON HIS DAY OFF"  I think so far, because I've been so "light" as far as working on my off hours (through the phone,) it's not been an issue.

    I'll ask you what my wife asks: Are you saving babies? Is anything life threatening?

    If you're pushing bits and helping people, great. It's not the end of the world if the system goes down. If you're on vacation, turn the work phone off. Everything will be fine or it won't. Either way, it shouldn't be your issue. If it is that important, they'll know you're really valuable. If it's not, you're giving away part of your life.

  • I smoked some ribs too. Came out perfect.

  • xsevensinzx - Friday, July 6, 2018 12:16 PM

    I smoked some ribs too. Came out perfect.

    Nice, they look great. Did you smoke the mac & cheese as well? If not, you should try that sometime....so yummy!!!! What is the corn relish looking thing on the far side there?

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