Are the posted questions getting worse?
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Steve Jones - Editor (8/4/2010)
I vote no. I like my watch. I don't want to have to buy a new one that has 10 digits.Plus I have this cool clock:
I have that same clock hanging in my office.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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Jack Corbett (8/4/2010)
Probably the most complex SQL I've had to write. Too many OUTER JOINs (business requires this design), and then parameters that could turn the OUTER JOINs to INNER JOINs and may not be what the business wants in some cases.Swap?
I got stuck this afternoon helping out with a query where I needed to add several columns that stored elapsed time.
Easy enough? Sure, except that the person who designed the database stored those elapsed times as the TIME datatype.
And you can't add two time columns. Makes sense, there's no meaning to 11am + 5pm. However in this case 11am meant 11 hours and 5pm meant 17 hours. Cue multiple conversions to datetime followed by DATEPART(mi,...) followed by DATEADD followed by a cast back to TIME.
and how do they store +24 hours in that time column ? (add an extra daycounter column ??) 😉
When can we convert to Metric Time?
Metric time really isn't all that farfetched! You'd have 10 hours in a day, 100 minutes in an hour and 100 seconds in a minute. The only adjustment that needs to to be made is to make the second a little longer than the second is now.
Wouldn't the seconds actually have to be shorter?
24 hr x 60 min x 60 sec = 86,400
10 hr x 100 min x 100 sec = 100,000
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Going back to a topic from a few days ago - here is a very pleasant post.
http://qa.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic960157-1292-1.aspx#bm963812
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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Lynn Pettis (8/4/2010)
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mtillman-921105 (8/4/2010)
ALZDBA (8/4/2010)
GilaMonster (8/4/2010)
Jack Corbett (8/4/2010)
Probably the most complex SQL I've had to write. Too many OUTER JOINs (business requires this design), and then parameters that could turn the OUTER JOINs to INNER JOINs and may not be what the business wants in some cases.Swap?
I got stuck this afternoon helping out with a query where I needed to add several columns that stored elapsed time.
Easy enough? Sure, except that the person who designed the database stored those elapsed times as the TIME datatype.
And you can't add two time columns. Makes sense, there's no meaning to 11am + 5pm. However in this case 11am meant 11 hours and 5pm meant 17 hours. Cue multiple conversions to datetime followed by DATEPART(mi,...) followed by DATEADD followed by a cast back to TIME.
and how do they store +24 hours in that time column ? (add an extra daycounter column ??) 😉
When can we convert to Metric Time?
Metric time really isn't all that farfetched! You'd have 10 hours in a day, 100 minutes in an hour and 100 seconds in a minute. The only adjustment that needs to to be made is to make the second a little longer than the second is now.
Wouldn't the seconds actually have to be shorter?
24 hr x 60 min x 60 sec = 86,400
10 hr x 100 min x 100 sec = 100,000
It is certainly possible I have it wrong, I did the calculations years ago when I was bored in a meeting. You know the kind, has absolutely nothing to do with you or your work, but they want the whole department there?
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Steve Jones - Editor (8/4/2010)
I vote no. I like my watch. I don't want to have to buy a new one that has 10 digits.Plus I have this cool clock:
Okay, looks like I'm getting a new clock for the office! :w00t:
Wayne
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I prefer a digital clock.
I once programmed one that would display the time in different formats: hex, binary, BCD, roman numerals, octal, and the good old base ten system.
The roman numeral version was fun.
Alvin Ramard
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Alvin Ramard (8/4/2010)
I prefer a digital clock.I once programmed one that would display the time in different formats: hex, binary, BCD, roman numerals, octal, and the good old base ten system.
The roman numeral version was fun.
ThinkGeek has plenty of clocks along those lines.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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Steve Jones - Editor (8/4/2010)
We have that clock in the kitchen in our house. People think it's funny.And that we're geeks.
Bazinga! :exclamation:
The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. - Stephen Hawking
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Steve Jones - Editor (8/4/2010)
We have that clock in the kitchen in our house. People think it's funny.And that we're geeks.
Bazinga! :exclamation:
No Bazinga for that one. It's true! 🙂
Alvin Ramard
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Steve Jones - Editor (8/4/2010)
We have that clock in the kitchen in our house. People think it's funny.My supervisor at the university has a very irritating clock. No numbers on it, just lines to indicate the hours. That alone would be fine, except this clock runs anti-clockwise. Without numbers it's very hard to realise that.
My meetings with him are always from 10:30. Once, we'd been talking for a while, I looked up at the clock and panicked, thinking it was 12:40. It wasn't, it was 11:20.
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Alvin Ramard (8/4/2010)
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Steve Jones - Editor (8/4/2010)
We have that clock in the kitchen in our house. People think it's funny.And that we're geeks.
Bazinga! :exclamation:
No Bazinga for that one. It's true! 🙂
I believe it. I was just looking for an excuse to say "Bazinga!" :hehe:
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Steve Jones - Editor (8/4/2010)
We have that clock in the kitchen in our house. People think it's funny.My supervisor at the university has a very irritating clock. No numbers on it, just lines to indicate the hours. That alone would be fine, except this clock runs anti-clockwise. Without numbers it's very hard to realise that.
My meetings with him are always from 10:30. Once, we'd been talking for a while, I looked up at the clock and panicked, thinking it was 12:40. It wasn't, it was 11:20.
We have a similar clock in our party room - just with numbers. And there's a rule: If you can't tell the time you asked for a drink all you deserve is sparkling water! It's fun.
Before we moved the clock to the party room it was in our kitchen. But when our oldest started to learn the clock we decided to move it to a different place. It was just confusing her....
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Just made my first "real" forum post in awhile. Had to pick a thread where Mr. Celko has already weighed in. http://qa.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic963903-391-1.aspx
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Jack Corbett (8/4/2010)
Just made my first "real" forum post in awhile. Had to pick a thread where Mr. Celko has already weighed in. http://qa.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic963903-391-1.aspxThen it looks like you went on a roll and posted another half-dozen posts (that I saw)!
Welcome back! :w00t:
Wayne
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server 2008
Author - SQL Server T-SQL Recipes
If you can't explain to another person how the code that you're copying from the internet works, then DON'T USE IT on a production system! After all, you will be the one supporting it!
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For better assistance in answering your questions
Performance Problems
Common date/time routines
Understanding and Using APPLY Part 1 & Part 2
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