October 21, 2009 at 6:58 am
WayneS (10/21/2009)
I really didn't see anything in the discussion that would make me feel between angry and depressed. Just my .02
Fair enough! It was the two guys saying 'yeah well I've been doing it much better for years - using SQL Server as an Object Database', and 'you should have used a 2008-only feature'...but hey YMMV. The discussion seems to have picked up now anyway.
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October 21, 2009 at 7:22 am
P Jones (10/21/2009)
keep the sales people away from the databases. They're the last people on earth who should have 'sa' privs.
Agreed. Very heartily. Especially when it's ACT by Sage which has so many integrated own ways of doing things it even deletes users added to the database so everything had to be done with the sa password rather than via windows logins permissions. Then the salesman got loose.... and we have to fix the mess :angry:
I won't use Ask as we also can't get through the office firewall which is set to prevent people logging onto personal web mail sites such as yahoo and google and to prevent visits to eBay etc. in office time.
Ugh... ACT. I've had to deal with exports from that program (along with having to use it for a short time). How they stay in business with such a lousy product is beyond me. Although, to be fair, I used it 9 years ago and it might have improved since then. My experience with the program was traumatic enough that I shy away from it and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Better to keep your contacts in an Excel spreadsheet than use ACT. 😛
-- Kit
October 21, 2009 at 7:25 am
Emperor Paulpatine,
XML makes db design much simpler too:
create table XMLTable (ID bigint, Data xml)
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October 21, 2009 at 7:26 am
Grant Fritchey (10/20/2009)
No accountants here either... Nurses, Receptionists, Sales people... those I've seen try to be DBA's. Nurses weren't so bad, neither were the receptionists... keep the sales people away from the databases. They're the last people on earth who should have 'sa' privs.
Since I started out as a salesperson who needed a database....
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October 21, 2009 at 8:05 am
GSquared (10/21/2009)
Grant Fritchey (10/20/2009)
No accountants here either... Nurses, Receptionists, Sales people... those I've seen try to be DBA's. Nurses weren't so bad, neither were the receptionists... keep the sales people away from the databases. They're the last people on earth who should have 'sa' privs.Since I started out as a salesperson who needed a database....
Nuff said... :-P, proof in point 😀
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October 21, 2009 at 8:07 am
Silverfox (10/21/2009)
GSquared (10/21/2009)
Grant Fritchey (10/20/2009)
No accountants here either... Nurses, Receptionists, Sales people... those I've seen try to be DBA's. Nurses weren't so bad, neither were the receptionists... keep the sales people away from the databases. They're the last people on earth who should have 'sa' privs.Since I started out as a salesperson who needed a database....
Nuff said... :-P, proof in point 😀
Exactly!
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October 21, 2009 at 8:11 am
I've been wondering if people who accidentally stumble onto the first page of the THREAD and casually go from page to page, not realizing how long it has grown? I wonder how long before they hit the double arrows to go to the end.
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October 21, 2009 at 8:33 am
GabyYYZ (10/21/2009)
I've been wondering if people who accidentally stumble onto the first page of the THREAD and casually go from page to page, not realizing how long it has grown? I wonder how long before they hit the double arrows to go to the end.
I'm one of them! 😀
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October 21, 2009 at 8:37 am
I can see someone getting lost for 20 pages, but the whole thread? That would be something.
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October 21, 2009 at 8:59 am
GabyYYZ (10/21/2009)
I've been wondering if people who accidentally stumble onto the first page of the THREAD and casually go from page to page, not realizing how long it has grown? I wonder how long before they hit the double arrows to go to the end.
I started reading The Thread when it was around 4k or so. Took me about 2 1/2 weeks of intermittant reading to catch up and it was around 6k when I did, I think. Now? We should probably have a medal or something for anyone who slogs their way through it. I enjoyed my slog though, it was very fun to read. You get swords and martial arts and science fiction and all sorts of things! Oh, and lots of instances of pork chops! How can you go wrong?
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October 21, 2009 at 10:13 am
Kit G (10/21/2009)
GabyYYZ (10/21/2009)
I've been wondering if people who accidentally stumble onto the first page of the THREAD and casually go from page to page, not realizing how long it has grown? I wonder how long before they hit the double arrows to go to the end.I started reading The Thread when it was around 4k or so. Took me about 2 1/2 weeks of intermittant reading to catch up and it was around 6k when I did, I think. Now? We should probably have a medal or something for anyone who slogs their way through it. I enjoyed my slog though, it was very fun to read. You get swords and martial arts and science fiction and all sorts of things! Oh, and lots of instances of pork chops! How can you go wrong?
Did we ever have pork chops recipes on here?
🙂
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October 21, 2009 at 10:18 am
Alvin Ramard (10/21/2009)
Kit G (10/21/2009)
GabyYYZ (10/21/2009)
I've been wondering if people who accidentally stumble onto the first page of the THREAD and casually go from page to page, not realizing how long it has grown? I wonder how long before they hit the double arrows to go to the end.I started reading The Thread when it was around 4k or so. Took me about 2 1/2 weeks of intermittant reading to catch up and it was around 6k when I did, I think. Now? We should probably have a medal or something for anyone who slogs their way through it. I enjoyed my slog though, it was very fun to read. You get swords and martial arts and science fiction and all sorts of things! Oh, and lots of instances of pork chops! How can you go wrong?
Did we ever have pork chops recipes on here?
🙂
GINGERED PORK CHOPS
INGREDIENTS
1/4 cup all-purpose flour
2 teaspoons ground ginger
salt to taste
1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
4 tablespoons olive oil
4 thick cut pork chops
1 onion, halved and thinly sliced
1 tablespoon brandy
1 1/2 cups orange juice
DIRECTIONS
Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
Place the flour, ginger, salt and pepper into a paper or plastic bag. Put the chops in the bag, and shake to coat. Heat oil in a frying pan over medium-high heat. Brown pork chops in the hot oil on both sides. Transfer the chops to a casserole dish.
Place the onion in the hot frying pan, and cook until limp. Pour the brandy into the pan, and stir to incorporate any bits of food that may be stuck to the pan. Pour the onion and juices over the pork chops in the dish. Pour the orange juice into the casserole as well.
Cover and bake for 45 minutes, or until chops are no longer pink. Serve with the orange sauce from the dish.
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October 21, 2009 at 10:31 am
Jason, you forgot to mention:
"put the pork chops in the launcher and aim to a clueless OP or wannabe DBA":-D
-- Gianluca Sartori
October 21, 2009 at 10:38 am
Database Pork Chops
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4 large chops, bone-in
cayenne pepper
flour
sharp knife
trebuchet
With the knife, sharpen the end of the bones until they achieve a dangerous point.
Liberally coat the chops with flour, the better to identify the victim
Load the chop on the trebuchet
Add generous sprinkling of cayenne pepper to intensify the message
target developer
launch
Allow the flour and pepper to dissipate
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October 21, 2009 at 10:58 am
Gianluca Sartori (10/21/2009)
Jason, you forgot to mention:"put the pork chops in the launcher and aim to a clueless OP or wannabe DBA":-D
My apologies - 10,000 Hail DBAs
And certainly the wannabe DBA made me SOM
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