June 24, 2008 at 5:06 pm
It's an nVidia thing. What can I say, other than (in my experience) they are very good at 3D acceleration and not so much at 2D "acceleration". I had numerous quirks in Visual Studio, as well, especially related to scrolling-based repaints.
Now I only buy development workstations and laptops with ATi cards: Never an issue there (for me)... YMMV.
As for the person with a laptop, most of the better ones do have separate video cards that can be removed and replaced (usually under the keyboard). Talk to your OEM.
-Matt
June 24, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Juergen.Guenther (6/24/2008)
Hello.i have the same problem with Dell Latitude D830 - unfortunatly changing the video card is no option for my laptop 🙁
Disabling the hardware acceration worked - but is not really satisfing to me.
Any suggestions?
Nothing left to do... buy a new laptop 😛
First, check with the folks that sold it to you... they may be able to change the video out.
--Jeff Moden
June 25, 2008 at 2:35 pm
I was told that this was a feature of the GUI as Microsoft did not want you querying the tables this way and therefore made it slow... Or at least were not going to speed it up...
Thanks
June 25, 2008 at 2:38 pm
This does not make sense because when I used a different video card, the refresh was instantaneous. So why would MS apply such a "feature" to only specific video cards?
June 26, 2008 at 2:19 pm
The latest Nvidia drivers (175.16) broke SSMS for me, as well as a few other programs. I rolled back to the previous version I was using, 169.21, and everything started working again.
June 26, 2008 at 2:44 pm
kvoo (6/25/2008)
This does not make sense because when I used a different video card, the refresh was instantaneous. So why would MS apply such a "feature" to only specific video cards?
It's not MS... it's a flaw in nVidia's drivers, end of story. Remember that nVidia's entire basis is 3D acceleration -- 2D is an afterthought to them. They have never been very-high-quality at 2D.
-Matt
July 3, 2008 at 1:18 am
I tried now an older driver - it seems to be a little bit better than with the current one.
What exact type of graphic adapter do you have?
Mine is a Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M.
I am now ordering a new Laptop from Dell, but i have only the choice between the 140M and the 135M from Nvidia or the Intel GMA X3100.
What do you think?
July 3, 2008 at 5:59 am
I'd take the Intel.
-Matt
July 11, 2008 at 10:50 am
Same issue here with a Lenovo T61p.
Windows XP SP3
Intel T7700 @ 2.5GHz Core 2 Duo
2GB RAM
Nvidia Quadro FX570M
Opening tables and scrolling tables is painfully slow, sometimes you see the redraw, sometimes you don't. It even causes BSOD's from time to time crying about win32k.sys.
Have not tried lowering hardware acceleration yet. I do have the latest driver though. Seems the latest driver has lowered the amount of BSOD's I get but still, this totally blows.
July 17, 2008 at 8:03 am
jay.parker (7/11/2008)
Same issue here with a Lenovo T61p.Windows XP SP3
Intel T7700 @ 2.5GHz Core 2 Duo
2GB RAM
Nvidia Quadro FX570M
Opening tables and scrolling tables is painfully slow, sometimes you see the redraw, sometimes you don't. It even causes BSOD's from time to time crying about win32k.sys.
Have not tried lowering hardware acceleration yet. I do have the latest driver though. Seems the latest driver has lowered the amount of BSOD's I get but still, this totally blows.
I lowered the hardware acceleration slider to third from the left (disable all directdraw and direct3d accelerations, blah blah) and its very fast now
:rolleyes:
July 17, 2008 at 8:19 am
Hi.
I'm currently using an older driver version (6.14.11.0119) available on the dell site,
together with the latest BIOS A12 everything works quite well...
The row painting is still not a running horse, but it is far better than with the latest version of the Nvidia driver.
I use full hardware acceleration.
July 17, 2008 at 5:02 pm
jay.parker (7/17/2008)
I lowered the hardware acceleration slider to third from the left (disable all directdraw and direct3d accelerations, blah blah) and its very fast now:rolleyes:
As with most of the other suggestions, moving slider to lower acceleration makes the painting rely more on CPU than on GPU (and hence the video driver). So, as long as you've got CPU power to spare, it's a decent workaround.
I think nVidia has a utility as well that allows you to disable acceleration based on the app, but that may only be for certain cards.
-Matt
July 19, 2008 at 11:44 am
try turning your virtual ram off. Keep every thing in ram.
Test your Ram using memtest89
July 23, 2008 at 8:28 am
jay.parker (7/17/2008)
jay.parker (7/11/2008)
Same issue here with a Lenovo T61p.Windows XP SP3
Intel T7700 @ 2.5GHz Core 2 Duo
2GB RAM
Nvidia Quadro FX570M
Opening tables and scrolling tables is painfully slow, sometimes you see the redraw, sometimes you don't. It even causes BSOD's from time to time crying about win32k.sys.
Have not tried lowering hardware acceleration yet. I do have the latest driver though. Seems the latest driver has lowered the amount of BSOD's I get but still, this totally blows.
I lowered the hardware acceleration slider to third from the left (disable all directdraw and direct3d accelerations, blah blah) and its very fast now
:rolleyes:
Just found one drawback to lowering the acceleration. Itunes will not display album artwork with the slider that low. One notch up it works but i'm back to having my slowing in SQL if i do that!
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