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ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 1

GilaMonster (5/14/2010)

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Anybody with the initials JC is doomed to have uncompetitive people skills but this guy really takes the biscuit.

Apparently he's actually a very nice guy and the attitude is an act that he puts on when posting on forums/writing articles. I think I recall him saying that it was his way of making sure that people pay attention. Not something I agree with (more flies with honey idea), but it's not that he has no people skills, it's that he intentionally acts that way.

(for the record, I don't like him very much)

It clearly works, but often in the wrong way. There are several regulars here including you, Gail, who are perfectly capable of putting the point across that any alternative to your suggestion is likely to result in disaster, without openly stating that the OP should "step back from the keyboard".

I don't think I'd like him either, way too Machiavellian.

^{“Write the query the simplest way. If through testing it becomes clear that the performance is inadequate, consider alternative query forms.” - Gail Shaw}

For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden

ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 2

Paul White NZ (5/14/2010)

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Anybody with the initials JC is doomed to have uncompetitive people skills but this guy really takes the biscuit. The last few days he's been particularly bad and brings to mind the rather splendid Robin Williams line from "Good Morning Vietnam". Just don't ask me to volunteer.

Thank you Chris for the visuals there :unsure:

Anytime, Paul - I'm kinda relieved to see you providing evidence that you're not spending all of your time hunched over a keyboard!

^{“Write the query the simplest way. If through testing it becomes clear that the performance is inadequate, consider alternative query forms.” - Gail Shaw}

For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden

SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281324 More actions · Answer 3

Paul White NZ (5/14/2010)

CirquedeSQLeil (5/13/2010)

Thanks Gianluca. I particularly like how Paul handled this...

You would have loved my first draft reply 😉

Celko is undoubtedly a reasonably bright individual, but his people skills are worse than mine :w00t:

LOL

Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
_______________________________________________
I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events

SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281324 More actions · Answer 4

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

GilaMonster (5/14/2010)

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Anybody with the initials JC is doomed to have uncompetitive people skills but this guy really takes the biscuit.

Apparently he's actually a very nice guy and the attitude is an act that he puts on when posting on forums/writing articles. I think I recall him saying that it was his way of making sure that people pay attention. Not something I agree with (more flies with honey idea), but it's not that he has no people skills, it's that he intentionally acts that way.

(for the record, I don't like him very much)

It clearly works, but often in the wrong way. There are several regulars here including you, Gail, who are perfectly capable of putting the point across that any alternative to your suggestion is likely to result in disaster, without openly stating that the OP should "step back from the keyboard".

I don't think I'd like him either, way too Machiavellian.

Wow, that was a pretty good example of what not to do.

Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
_______________________________________________
I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events

Paul White SSC Guru Points: 150457 More actions · Answer 5

Paul White

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May 14, 2010 at 8:15 am

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Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Anytime, Paul - I'm kinda relieved to see you providing evidence that you're not spending all of your time hunched over a keyboard!

It does happen!

Paul White
SQLPerformance.com
SQLkiwi blog
@SQL_Kiwi

jcrawf02 SSC-Insane Points: 24198 More actions · Answer 6

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Paul White NZ (5/14/2010)

CirquedeSQLeil (5/13/2010)

Thanks Gianluca. I particularly like how Paul handled this...

You would have loved my first draft reply 😉

Celko is undoubtedly a reasonably bright individual, but his people skills are worse than mine :w00t:

Anybody with the initials JC is doomed to have uncompetitive people skills but this guy really takes the biscuit. The last few days he's been particularly bad and brings to mind the rather splendid Robin Williams line from "Good Morning Vietnam". Just don't ask me to volunteer.

Hey!! 🙁

*edit - I'll throw in another 'Hey!! :(' for my buddy Jack too...

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How best to post your question[/url]
How to post performance problems[/url]
Tally Table:What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url]

"stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."

ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 7

jcrawf02 (5/14/2010)

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Paul White NZ (5/14/2010)

CirquedeSQLeil (5/13/2010)

Thanks Gianluca. I particularly like how Paul handled this...

You would have loved my first draft reply 😉

Celko is undoubtedly a reasonably bright individual, but his people skills are worse than mine :w00t:

Anybody with the initials JC is doomed to have uncompetitive people skills but this guy really takes the biscuit. The last few days he's been particularly bad and brings to mind the rather splendid Robin Williams line from "Good Morning Vietnam". Just don't ask me to volunteer.

Hey!! 🙁

Humble apologies - gosh the beer budget is taking a hammering today. Is your middle initial 'H'?

^{“Write the query the simplest way. If through testing it becomes clear that the performance is inadequate, consider alternative query forms.” - Gail Shaw}

For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden

SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281324 More actions · Answer 8

For those that have syndicated blogs here, how does one get their Avatar to display on the blog page? I have an avatar assigned that shows up in comments but not in the blog page.

Example:

Glenn has his displayed, but I do not.

Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
_______________________________________________
I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events

jcrawf02 SSC-Insane Points: 24198 More actions · Answer 9

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

jcrawf02 (5/14/2010)

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Paul White NZ (5/14/2010)

CirquedeSQLeil (5/13/2010)

Thanks Gianluca. I particularly like how Paul handled this...

You would have loved my first draft reply 😉

Celko is undoubtedly a reasonably bright individual, but his people skills are worse than mine :w00t:

Anybody with the initials JC is doomed to have uncompetitive people skills but this guy really takes the biscuit. The last few days he's been particularly bad and brings to mind the rather splendid Robin Williams line from "Good Morning Vietnam". Just don't ask me to volunteer.

Hey!! 🙁

Humble apologies - gosh the beer budget is taking a hammering today. Is your middle initial 'H'?

Nope, no H 😉

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How best to post your question[/url]
How to post performance problems[/url]
Tally Table:What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url]

"stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."

Jack Corbett SSC Guru Points: 184388 More actions · Answer 10

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Paul White NZ (5/14/2010)

CirquedeSQLeil (5/13/2010)

Thanks Gianluca. I particularly like how Paul handled this...

You would have loved my first draft reply 😉

Celko is undoubtedly a reasonably bright individual, but his people skills are worse than mine :w00t:

Anybody with the initials JC is doomed to have uncompetitive people skills but this guy really takes the biscuit. The last few days he's been particularly bad and brings to mind the rather splendid Robin Williams line from "Good Morning Vietnam". Just don't ask me to volunteer.

Hey! I take offense at that! My initials are JC and I have GREAT people skills, you idiot! 😉

Jack Corbett
Consultant - Straight Path Solutions
Check out these links on how to get faster and more accurate answers:
Forum Etiquette: How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help
Need an Answer? Actually, No ... You Need a Question

Jack Corbett SSC Guru Points: 184388 More actions · Answer 11

jcrawf02 (5/14/2010)

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Paul White NZ (5/14/2010)

CirquedeSQLeil (5/13/2010)

Thanks Gianluca. I particularly like how Paul handled this...

You would have loved my first draft reply 😉

Celko is undoubtedly a reasonably bright individual, but his people skills are worse than mine :w00t:

Anybody with the initials JC is doomed to have uncompetitive people skills but this guy really takes the biscuit. The last few days he's been particularly bad and brings to mind the rather splendid Robin Williams line from "Good Morning Vietnam". Just don't ask me to volunteer.

Hey!! 🙁

*edit - I'll throw in another 'Hey!! :(' for my buddy Jack too...

Thanks for the Hey!. I read this AFTER I put my own in. I had to react immediately to such an offensive statement 😀

Jack Corbett
Consultant - Straight Path Solutions
Check out these links on how to get faster and more accurate answers:
Forum Etiquette: How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help
Need an Answer? Actually, No ... You Need a Question

ChrisM@home SSC-Insane Points: 24260 More actions · Answer 12

Jack Corbett (5/14/2010)

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Paul White NZ (5/14/2010)

CirquedeSQLeil (5/13/2010)

Thanks Gianluca. I particularly like how Paul handled this...

You would have loved my first draft reply 😉

Celko is undoubtedly a reasonably bright individual, but his people skills are worse than mine :w00t:

Anybody with the initials JC is doomed to have uncompetitive people skills but this guy really takes the biscuit. The last few days he's been particularly bad and brings to mind the rather splendid Robin Williams line from "Good Morning Vietnam". Just don't ask me to volunteer.

Hey! I take offense at that! My initials are JC and I have GREAT people skills, you idiot! 😉

Et tu, Brute 🙁

Heh - my clumsy gaffe is perpetuating Paul's hilarious putdown 😎

[font="Arial"]^{Low-hanging fruit picker and defender of the moggies}[/font]

For better assistance in answering your questions, please read this[/url].

Understanding and using APPLY, (I)[/url] and (II)[/url] Paul White[/url]

Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins[/url] / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url] Jeff Moden[/url]

jcrawf02 SSC-Insane Points: 24198 More actions · Answer 13

it's ok Chris, Jack can have my beer, I'm not a big fan anyway.

---------------------------------------------------------
How best to post your question[/url]
How to post performance problems[/url]
Tally Table:What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url]

"stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."

SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281324 More actions · Answer 14

Jack Corbett (5/14/2010)

Chris Morris-439714 (5/14/2010)

Paul White NZ (5/14/2010)

CirquedeSQLeil (5/13/2010)

Thanks Gianluca. I particularly like how Paul handled this...

You would have loved my first draft reply 😉

Celko is undoubtedly a reasonably bright individual, but his people skills are worse than mine :w00t:

Anybody with the initials JC is doomed to have uncompetitive people skills but this guy really takes the biscuit. The last few days he's been particularly bad and brings to mind the rather splendid Robin Williams line from "Good Morning Vietnam". Just don't ask me to volunteer.

Hey! I take offense at that! My initials are JC and I have GREAT people skills, you idiot! 😉

ROFLOL

Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
_______________________________________________
I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
Learn Extended Events

jcrawf02 SSC-Insane Points: 24198 More actions · Answer 15

For those of you sick of working on real problems, feel like helping a JC (not a JHC) out?

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How best to post your question[/url]
How to post performance problems[/url]
Tally Table:What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url]

"stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."