May 3, 2009 at 12:43 am
Thanks, Roy.
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May 3, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Sorry for disturbing the silence of The Thread but I have to get this off my chest...
I HATE EXCEL!! I'm about to finish my first article and want to insert some nice graphics but I'm currently feelin' like a completely idiot with that. This is no request for help with Excel, though.
Now I'm feeling better!
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May 3, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Florian Reischl (5/3/2009)
Sorry for disturbing the silence of The Thread but I have to get this off my chest...I HATE EXCEL!! I'm about to finish my first article and want to insert some nice graphics but I'm currently feelin' like a completely idiot with that. This is no request for help with Excel, though.
Now I'm feeling better!
Me too. I hate it even more since they came out with Office 2007.
--Jeff Moden
May 3, 2009 at 2:37 pm
So, denizens of The Thread, when do you think we'll hit 4,000 posts?
Only with Threadarhoea
Who actually takes the time to read the documentation any way?
Heck, who actually takes the time to write the documentation any way? 😛
p.s. Welcome back Barry, glad you're OK.
(Feel a stone lighter :w00t: )
Far away is close at hand in the images of elsewhere.
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May 3, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Florian Reischl (5/3/2009)
I HATE EXCEL!!
[font="Verdana"]It's the wave of the future. Get in touch with your inner Excel. Who needs SQL Server when you can have... dum dum dum... Spreadmarts![/font]
May 3, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Florian Reischl (5/3/2009)
I HATE EXCEL!!
Count yourself lucky.
One of my current jobs is to redesign and transfer a database to SQL Server - from Access 2007 :w00t:
Flame-retardant coating: It is possible to do great stuff with Access, this just isn't a shining example.
Current favourite feature: dates from the ninth century (typos) which really don't fit well with DATETIME.
Paul
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May 3, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Paul White (5/3/2009)
Current favourite feature: dates from the ninth century (typos) which really don't fit well with DATETIME.
[font="Verdana"]I'll see your 9th century date and raise you one in 20009.[/font]
May 3, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Bruce W Cassidy (5/3/2009)
[font="Verdana"]I'll see your 9th century date and raise you one in 20009.[/font]
Eeeek! :pinch:
User-developed Access databases with no validation make baby Jesus cry...
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May 3, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Paul White (5/3/2009)
User-developed Access databases with no validation make baby Jesus cry...
[font="Verdana"]This was from an Excel spreadsheet. I love Excel. Really I do. Honest. (Is it working yet?)[/font]
May 4, 2009 at 6:12 am
Dave Smith (5/1/2009)
I heard about his death. I loved Crash and the Atrocity Exhibition. I also read the REsearch books that featured his interviews and short fiction. In my Science Fiction class in college, Ballard was one of my prof's favorites. I think Terminal Beach was the first story of his that I read.I actually liked the Cronenberg film, but then I'm biased, as I like pretty much all of his films, Videodrome most of all.
I will admit though that the film is deficient in instrument binnacle references...
I loved Videodrome. I wrote three papers on the movie while I was at film school. I'm a huge Cronenberg fan. I thought he would have been perfect, but I thought he made the movie far too clinical and not nearly as... slimy? as it should have been.
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May 4, 2009 at 6:13 am
Florian Reischl (5/3/2009)
Sorry for disturbing the silence of The Thread but I have to get this off my chest...I HATE EXCEL!! I'm about to finish my first article and want to insert some nice graphics but I'm currently feelin' like a completely idiot with that. This is no request for help with Excel, though.
Now I'm feeling better!
Right there with you brother. It's the one software I've just never even tried to learn more about. I avoid it like it had swine flu.
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May 4, 2009 at 7:08 am
Hate to be contrarian here .... nah, honestly, I enjoy being contrarian .... but I like Excel. It's useful and gets the job done.
If there's anything to hate on the subject, it's usually the people who misuse Excel/Access/SQL Server/whatever.
Best misuse of Office I've seen yet was essentially a semi-relational database implemented in Word documents. Had a customer list set up as a table of contents, and each "chapter" was the customer's data: address, phone, etc., then "sections" for order data. So you could navigate the thing with mouse-clicks, Word would maintain the "indexes" (table of contents) for you (it can be set to do that pretty easily), looking stuff up was Ctrl-F. No relational integrity, no data types, no transactions, and so on, but for a 3-person office it worked. The collaberation tools (merging document modifications) were used for synching data between multiple users.
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May 4, 2009 at 7:19 am
I've gotta agree with Gus on this one. Excel is a great tool, the problem is that it gets used in ways it shouldn't. Workbooks with lookups to other workbooks simulating RI for one.
Ahh, invalid dates, you have to love them. I have been working on migrating data from a Foxpro application to SQL Server and the Fox app has no date validation so I have birth dates from as far back as 0007.
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May 4, 2009 at 7:28 am
I like Excel too. For a while, I even used it as a word processor (that was many, many, many years ago). Got really good at formatting stuff so it looked nice. Although, I have to admit Excel's formatting of date/time entries is something to pull one's hair out over.
Word however... if you hear me cursing in my cubicle, it's me cursing at Word because it's formatting something the way it THINKS I want it formatted rather than the way I REALLY want it formatted. I've become a master at getting Word to do what -I- want it to do, rather than what the programmers think (or don't think) I want it to do.
It is rather amusing to be the master of a program you hate (although, I like Word 2007 so far, just need to learn where they hide everything). But Word 2003 and below... there are times when I want to strangle the designers for not allowing me to do what I want.
-- Kit
May 4, 2009 at 8:30 am
Excel is not bad.... The main thing is that the Accountants and Marketing personnels love Excel. They need to see some graph. I am not sure if they know how to look at the graph and figure out what it means, bit they love it.
-Roy
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