October 10, 2018 at 10:53 am
Michael L John - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:47 AMtype your messageDon't you mean:
"I'm not going to tell you everything you need to know to fix my problem but fix it anyways and for free, and I expect to get paid for it"
This. Most definitely this.
Thom~
Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
Larnu.uk
October 10, 2018 at 10:57 am
jasona.work - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:44 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:54 AMThom A - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:39 AMI'm really beginning to wonder how long this discussion is going to go on for.I've given uo asking for the actual query now (I think Grant has too), however, I really wish they would share it; I suspect that it's going to be just a (very) poorly written query (probably filled with NOLOCK and non-SARGable clauses in the WHERE), and fixing it will probably benefit the OP loads.
Of course, they might have really found an odd-ball performance issue. If that's the case, the amount the community could learn from it would be great.
WOW!!!! That OP is a hot mess. Jobless and thinking that MS is going to pay him for finding some obscure bug that is only repeatable occasionally, on certain versions and with no details. Why did either you or Grant stick around that disaster so long? They don't want help figuring it out. They want validation of their "bug" so they can hopefully get some reward that doesn't exist. That person is chasing unicorns and you guys are leading them down the path.
That hurt to read...
It's a classic "I'm not going to tell you everything you need to know to fix my problem but fix it anyways and for free."
With a dose of "I'll collect a major reward for all your work and might give you a tiny payout for your help."
October 10, 2018 at 11:04 am
Brandie Tarvin - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:57 AMjasona.work - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:44 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:54 AMThom A - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:39 AMI'm really beginning to wonder how long this discussion is going to go on for.I've given uo asking for the actual query now (I think Grant has too), however, I really wish they would share it; I suspect that it's going to be just a (very) poorly written query (probably filled with NOLOCK and non-SARGable clauses in the WHERE), and fixing it will probably benefit the OP loads.
Of course, they might have really found an odd-ball performance issue. If that's the case, the amount the community could learn from it would be great.
WOW!!!! That OP is a hot mess. Jobless and thinking that MS is going to pay him for finding some obscure bug that is only repeatable occasionally, on certain versions and with no details. Why did either you or Grant stick around that disaster so long? They don't want help figuring it out. They want validation of their "bug" so they can hopefully get some reward that doesn't exist. That person is chasing unicorns and you guys are leading them down the path.
That hurt to read...
It's a classic "I'm not going to tell you everything you need to know to fix my problem but fix it anyways and for free."With a dose of "I'll collect a major reward for all your work and might give you a tiny payout for your help."
The one thing that aggravates me about this post is that I took the time to read it. I can never get those 5 minutes back....
Michael L John
If you assassinate a DBA, would you pull a trigger?
To properly post on a forum:
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/61537/
October 10, 2018 at 11:17 am
Michael L John - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:04 AMBrandie Tarvin - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:57 AMjasona.work - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:44 AMSean Lange - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:54 AMThom A - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:39 AMI'm really beginning to wonder how long this discussion is going to go on for.I've given uo asking for the actual query now (I think Grant has too), however, I really wish they would share it; I suspect that it's going to be just a (very) poorly written query (probably filled with NOLOCK and non-SARGable clauses in the WHERE), and fixing it will probably benefit the OP loads.
Of course, they might have really found an odd-ball performance issue. If that's the case, the amount the community could learn from it would be great.
WOW!!!! That OP is a hot mess. Jobless and thinking that MS is going to pay him for finding some obscure bug that is only repeatable occasionally, on certain versions and with no details. Why did either you or Grant stick around that disaster so long? They don't want help figuring it out. They want validation of their "bug" so they can hopefully get some reward that doesn't exist. That person is chasing unicorns and you guys are leading them down the path.
That hurt to read...
It's a classic "I'm not going to tell you everything you need to know to fix my problem but fix it anyways and for free."With a dose of "I'll collect a major reward for all your work and might give you a tiny payout for your help."
The one thing that aggravates me about this post is that I took the time to read it. I can never get those 5 minutes back....
You're lucky, I read the entire train wreck...
October 10, 2018 at 11:24 am
jasona.work - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:17 AMYou're lucky, I read the entire train wreck...
I read it as well, even made a comment when I finished.
October 10, 2018 at 12:34 pm
Lynn Pettis - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:24 AMI read it as well, even made a comment when I finished.
I couldn't resist...
Michael L John
If you assassinate a DBA, would you pull a trigger?
To properly post on a forum:
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/61537/
October 10, 2018 at 1:28 pm
Michael L John - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:34 PMI couldn't resist...
I think he his delusional.
October 10, 2018 at 1:33 pm
Lynn Pettis - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:28 PMI think he his delusional.
*Must*
*resist*
*posting*
(Plus, well, Lynn basically said what I've been thinking...)
October 10, 2018 at 2:26 pm
jasona.work - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:33 PM*Must*
*resist*
*posting*
(Plus, well, Lynn basically said what I've been thinking...)
I tried. I tried, tried, tried. I'm out. What a total and complete hot mess.
----------------------------------------------------The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood... Theodore RooseveltThe Scary DBAAuthor of: SQL Server 2017 Query Performance Tuning, 5th Edition and SQL Server Execution Plans, 3rd EditionProduct Evangelist for Red Gate Software
October 10, 2018 at 2:32 pm
Honestly... I really want to see the secret squirrel more confidential than confidential view. It must do amazing things never before dreamt of by humankind... Or it's a steaming pile of horse manure. One or the other. You know where my money is, but MAN, I really want to see it.
----------------------------------------------------The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood... Theodore RooseveltThe Scary DBAAuthor of: SQL Server 2017 Query Performance Tuning, 5th Edition and SQL Server Execution Plans, 3rd EditionProduct Evangelist for Red Gate Software
October 10, 2018 at 3:57 pm
Thom A - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:39 AMI'm really beginning to wonder how long this discussion is going to go on for.I've given uo asking for the actual query now (I think Grant has too), however, I really wish they would share it; I suspect that it's going to be just a (very) poorly written query (probably filled with NOLOCK and non-SARGable clauses in the WHERE), and fixing it will probably benefit the OP loads.
Of course, they might have really found an odd-ball performance issue. If that's the case, the amount the community could learn from it would be great.
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October 11, 2018 at 1:51 am
Brandie Tarvin - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 8:23 AMjasona.work - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 8:18 AMWell, I think the best way to describe the job is "hours and hours of boredom, followed by minutes of sheer howling terror." Just not quite boredom and certainly not terror.
There's challenges, but they tend to be a little here, a little there. Right now my three biggest challenges are getting the backups under my direct control, getting ready for a big audit (unknown when exactly, this is happening,) and getting a SSIS package I created working right.I'm not sure I want to know why getting an SSIS package working is considered "minutes of sheer howling terror."
:hehe:
Meh, horror is (post BIDS) finding right version of VS with a correct available extension to even create a package :angry:
And don't get me started on SSMS 17.x inability to connect to 2016 Integration Services :pinch:
Far away is close at hand in the images of elsewhere.
Anon.
October 11, 2018 at 4:02 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Wednesday, October 10, 2018 3:57 PMA wise man once told me not to argue with fools. From a distance ...
Could not resist posting on it also.. darn waste of time for everyone.
October 11, 2018 at 4:10 am
David Burrows - Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:51 AMAnd don't get me started on SSMS 17.x inability to connect to 2016 Integration Services :pinch:
Seriously? Our main vendor is about to go to 2017. And it's not backwards compatible?
October 11, 2018 at 4:27 am
Brandie Tarvin - Thursday, October 11, 2018 4:10 AMSeriously? Our main vendor is about to go to 2017. And it's not backwards compatible?
Maybe this is MS's way of pushing people to use SSISDB instead.
Thom~
Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
Larnu.uk
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