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  • August 4, 2009 at 10:56 am

    #1034417

    I didn't think it was a good design, and not sure it really saved space, but I knew it would generate discussion. Lots of people, especially developers, think this way. It's good to let them get information out there and then debate it, and gently point out problems. I think the posters did a great job, and I added notes to the top and bottom of the article for people to read the discussion.

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  • August 4, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    #1034465

    I added notes to the top and bottom of the article for people to read the discussion.

    That's a really good idea, Steve. Sometimes the amount of value in the discussion outweighs the value of the article itself.

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  • August 4, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    #1034529

    Paul White (8/4/2009)

    You can all relax in the knowledge that everything will be smaller and faster if we store it in XML rather than traditional relational structures.

    [font="Verdana"]Whew! Thank goodness for that!

    Of course, with SQL Server 2008's external file store, we can make our databases really small by storing all of our data as external files!

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  • August 4, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    #1034538

    Or we could just go back to flat files. Screw relational AND hierarchical databases.

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  • August 4, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    #1034544

    Bob Hovious (8/4/2009)

    Or we could just go back to flat files. Screw relational AND hierarchical databases.

    [font="Verdana"]Here's a suggestion: we could come up with a better language for working with our flat files. It should be a business friendly language. So we could call it something like Common Business Oriented Language.

    Edited because I can't spell.

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  • August 4, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    #1034547

    Bruce W. Cassidy

    It should be a business friendly language

    Then we could develope a command called MOVE CORRESPONDING

    to designate a set based operation.

    And use something like PERFORM paragraph1 THRU paragraph2. when debugging,

    Oh and so much more, oh gee oh golly oh gosh

    If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.

    Ron

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  • August 4, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    #1034550

    Bruce W Cassidy (8/4/2009)

    Bob Hovious (8/4/2009)

    Or we could just go back to flat files. Screw relational AND hierarchical databases.

    [font="Verdana"]Here's a suggestion: we could come up with a better language for working with our flat files. It should be a business friendly language. So we could call it something like Common Busiess Oriented Language.[/font]

    Shouldn't we also have some kind of Report Program Generation language as well?

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  • August 4, 2009 at 4:10 pm

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    Bob Hovious (8/4/2009)

    Or we could just go back to flat files. Screw relational AND hierarchical databases.

    At least it wouldn't have tags in it. 😉 Well... unless it were EDI.

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  • August 4, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    #1034557

    Guess everyone knew Gail was gone. Not many posts in the corruption forums.

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  • August 4, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    #1034558

    Jack Corbett (8/4/2009)

    Guess everyone knew Gail was gone. Not many posts in the corruption forums.

    Somehow, that just doesn't sound right. 😛

    --Jeff Moden

    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.
    "Change is inevitable... change for the better is not".
    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)
    Intro to Tally Tables and Functions

  • August 4, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    #1034577

    Not going to quote them all but you guys are funny today!!!

    Awesome work.

    🙂

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  • August 4, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    #1034590

    Paul White (8/4/2009)

    So...today's SSC newsletter - entitled {title} - features Gain Space Using XML Data

    You can all relax in the knowledge that everything will be smaller and faster if we store it in XML rather than traditional relational structures.

    I posted a script in the discussion thread*.

    Paul

    * Spolier Alert: XML turns out not to be smaller or faster at all :laugh:

    Really? Did you Zip it first? ... And Last? ... 😀

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  • August 4, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    #1034612

    Hi Expertz,

    Please help me with these posts............

    http://qa.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic763933-65-1.aspx

    http://qa.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic754722-65-1.aspx#bm757143

    Tanx 😀

  • August 5, 2009 at 1:33 am

    #1034643

    Eswin (8/4/2009)

    Hi Expertz,

    Please help me with these posts............

    http://qa.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic763933-65-1.aspx

    http://qa.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic754722-65-1.aspx#bm757143

    I don't think this is a good behaviour.

    I go through all new posts every day and I start from unanswered questions. If I don't add replies to a thread it's because I don't know the answer or the question is so poorly written that I don't even take the time to read it fully.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but this thread is not a Bulletin Board for unanswered questions and personally I will never post a reply because somebody comes here looking for an answer.

    -- Gianluca Sartori

  • August 5, 2009 at 5:33 am

    #1034693

    Steve Jones - Editor (8/4/2009)

    I didn't think it was a good design, and not sure it really saved space, but I knew it would generate discussion. Lots of people, especially developers, think this way. It's good to let them get information out there and then debate it, and gently point out problems. I think the posters did a great job, and I added notes to the top and bottom of the article for people to read the discussion.

    And this is why I love coming here. Rather than try to supress the bad ideas you're giving them a really good airing. Let 'em out of the cage to be roundly thrashed as they deserve. Joking, sort of. But seriously, that's a big reason why I like this place. You'll intentionally publish questionable content because it will move the discussion forward by either supporting new ideas or educating people as to why some ideas are bad. Great stuff.

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