December 15, 2011 at 6:41 am
GSquared (12/15/2011)
[SNIP]blamed the devs
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blame the devs.
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That's the devs fault.
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blame the devs.
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Blame the devs.
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Blame the devs.
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Blame the devs.
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Or blame the devs.
I think you must have gone to school with the DBA at my work place. . .
December 15, 2011 at 6:44 am
@GS dude YOU'RE THE DEV :-D:hehe:
December 15, 2011 at 6:47 am
Personally, I like to grab chocolate when things break. It makes life so much more pleasant to eat chocolate while the world is falling apart around me. @=)
December 15, 2011 at 6:48 am
blame the devs
Everybody just blame me... :crying:
December 15, 2011 at 6:56 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (12/15/2011)
@GS dude YOU'RE THE DEV :-D:hehe:
I think your sentence got truncated and lost a couple of letters.
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December 15, 2011 at 6:58 am
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Ninja's_RGR'us (12/15/2011)
@GS dude YOU'RE THE DEV :-D:hehe:I think your sentence got truncated and lost a couple of letters.
I thought the same thing
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December 15, 2011 at 7:01 am
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Ninja's_RGR'us (12/15/2011)
@GS dude YOU'RE THE DEV :-D:hehe:I think your sentence got truncated and lost a couple of letters.
DUDE, comma, you're the dev.
/joke
December 15, 2011 at 7:19 am
Dev (12/15/2011)
blame the devs
Everybody just blame me... :crying:
No, that would have been blame the Dev.
December 15, 2011 at 7:38 am
Back on topic...
sqldba2k8, if you want to learn SQL Server, grab Books Online, grab a How-To book (I used Sybex Certification books back in the day), get yourself a cheap PC / faux server setup for home and go through all the exercises. Do everything in your power to break the system, then fix it.
Hang out on the forums, ask questions of things you don't understand (while telling us what you tried and why it doesn't make sense to you), and try to answer other people's questions.
These methods do help with the learning curve. It's a sad fact of life that if you don't do the work, you can't get into the industry. And you can't get into the industry if you don't do the work. The only way around that is to work SQL Server on your own time, or help the local DBAs if they'll let you. That's how you get your experience.
The other thing you should watch out for is there are at about 7 types of SQL Server DBAs in the world and if you want to get into the industry, you need to figure out which type you want to be.
December 15, 2011 at 7:45 am
there are at about 7 types of SQL Server DBAs in the world
Would you please share it here or give a pointer to the article.
December 15, 2011 at 7:46 am
a while ago, someone wrote Changing Career Gears
It still holds truth
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December 15, 2011 at 7:58 am
Dev (12/15/2011)
there are at about 7 types of SQL Server DBAs in the world
Would you please share it here or give a pointer to the article.
Grumpy, Sleepy, Happy, Sneezy, Bashful, Dopey & Doc
I alternate between Grumpy and Sleepy myself :hehe:
December 15, 2011 at 8:05 am
Dev (12/15/2011)
there are at about 7 types of SQL Server DBAs in the world
Would you please share it here or give a pointer to the article.
Here's an old article from 2001 by Brian Knight on DBA Types[/url]. There only used to be three: Production, Development, and Hybrid. That's changed a lot.
This is my list:
Production DBA - only supports SQL Server in a production environment. Does little to no development and may have limited access to certain roles or needs due to corporate segregation of DBA duties.
DBA Developer - develops code solutions (procs, functions, views) to be tested and eventually moved up to production. Does not have access to production environments due to corporate segregation of DBA duties.
DBA Data Architect - Develops and designs databases in accordance to business unit needs.
Business Intelligence DBA - Supports SSAS, SSRS, and SSIS in various environments for the users. Develops BI solutions for the corporation.
Dev / BI hybrid DBA - Does both T-SQL and BI development but seldom supports the users directly.
Everything DBA - the person who works at a small enough office that (s)he is expected to do production support, development, data architecture, BI work, and even a little bit of regular Server Admin support. (This is me).
Accidental DBA - Opps. I'm a power user that knows a little bit about server administration and T-SQL. How the heck did I get to be the person expected to know all things SQL Server?
I'm sure there are more ways to slice this pie. This is Brad McGhee's list according to http://sqlpost.blogspot.com/2009/06/sql-server-dba-types-logical-dba-vs.html
•DBA System Administrator
•DBA Database Designer
•DBA Developer
•DBA High Availability Specialist
•DBA Business Intelligence Specialist
•DBA Report Writer
December 15, 2011 at 8:15 am
@Brandie: Thanks for sharing it. Much appreciate it.
I don’t think all of them exist in this world. IMO following do exist...
• PROD DBA
• DEV DBA
• Everything / Hybrid DBA
• Accidental DBA
I don’t think there are organizations (even the giants) which employ BI DBAs or HA DBAs. If you are a PROD DBA, you are assumed to be HA DBA as well. Same is applicable to DEV DBAs for playing the role of BI DBAs.
Other thoughts?
December 15, 2011 at 8:23 am
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sqldba2k8 (12/15/2011)
in software industry most of the working people are fake.Speak for yourself.
sqldba2k8 (12/15/2011)
genuine people have their own knowledge to get the job.Luckily they do.
sqldba2k8 (12/15/2011)
they are also using google and other sources right?Indeed. So why aren't you? Are you one of those fakes?
And the answer to question 1 is coffee. How can you not know that? 🙂
Coffee? Man, I got that one wrong then. For me it is a Diet Coke since I don't drink coffee...
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